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14 minutes ago, psychonnect_rozen said:

There IS alot wrong with gatekeeping. It drives away potential people who are just interested in a fandom. Saying to a newcomer to a fandom “oh you can’t be in here you have to be a fan of x to be part of this fandom” is fucking bullshit.

there's literally nothing barring those same people from setting up their own fan communities to try and attract like-minded people as well though so ????

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1 minute ago, Tokage said:

there's literally nothing barring those same people from setting up their own fan communities to try and attract like-minded people as well though so ????

That's difficult to get started if there are already more popular communities, though. Plus, it's difficult to find out news if you're not in a larger community.

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okay, so idk if this is necessarily unpopular, but from what i see around online it’s definitely polarizing.  but, why bother someone with some dumb shit if they’re not actually hurting anyone?  this can pertain to a lot of things, from liking comic book movies and not comic books, being really fuckin’ into anime, or other such things.  it can also be more serious (that’s probably not the right word since these things aren’t really a big deal anyway) things like being lgbt, specifically that whole rhetoric about there only being two genders (which tbh i’m not sure if people who say that are specifically referring to non-binary people, or trans folk as a whole most of the time).  even if that’s true (and i’m not saying it is), who cares?  aren’t there like, real problems to deal with?  i mean, i’m sure there’s smth more important going on than someone switching what pronouns they use depending on how they feel on any given day, or someone who likes the deadman wonderland anime but doesn’t really care to read the manga even though it’s basically a different story.  none of that stuff is super pressing.

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14 minutes ago, God said:

okay, so idk if this is necessarily unpopular, but from what i see around online it’s definitely polarizing.  but, why bother someone with some dumb shit if they’re not actually hurting anyone?  this can pertain to a lot of things, from liking comic book movies and not comic books, being really fuckin’ into anime, or other such things.  it can also be more serious (that’s probably not the right word since these things aren’t really a big deal anyway) things like being lgbt, specifically that whole rhetoric about there only being two genders (which tbh i’m not sure if people who say that are specifically referring to non-binary people, or trans folk as a whole most of the time).  even if that’s true (and i’m not saying it is), who cares?  aren’t there like, real problems to deal with?  i mean, i’m sure there’s smth more important going on than someone switching what pronouns they use depending on how they feel on any given day, or someone who likes the deadman wonderland anime but doesn’t really care to read the manga even though it’s basically a different story.  none of that stuff is super pressing.

Everything you said is true, except for the LGBT identitarions and them going nuts if you say that there are two genders, don't give them what they want whether it's calling them by whatever pronoun they want or what they identify as. It's funny how people so anti-free speech are so fascist when it comes to pushing their believes on others. I'm sorry, but I don't have to adhere to your crazy doctrine because you have body dysmorphia or some other personal problem. 🙄

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54 minutes ago, God said:

okay, so idk if this is necessarily unpopular, but from what i see around online it’s definitely polarizing.  but, why bother someone with some dumb shit if they’re not actually hurting anyone?  this can pertain to a lot of things, from liking comic book movies and not comic books, being really fuckin’ into anime, or other such things.  it can also be more serious (that’s probably not the right word since these things aren’t really a big deal anyway) things like being lgbt, specifically that whole rhetoric about there only being two genders (which tbh i’m not sure if people who say that are specifically referring to non-binary people, or trans folk as a whole most of the time).  even if that’s true (and i’m not saying it is), who cares?  aren’t there like, real problems to deal with?  i mean, i’m sure there’s smth more important going on than someone switching what pronouns they use depending on how they feel on any given day, or someone who likes the deadman wonderland anime but doesn’t really care to read the manga even though it’s basically a different story.  none of that stuff is super pressing.

Exactly. Why should I care what people think. For me, I would get railed up if it was something I stand for, like LGBT rights. For me, problems that don't involve me, are not my problems. Unless, that is I am directly involved or want to have a discussion 

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37 minutes ago, secret_no_03 said:

Everything you said is true, except for the LGBT identitarions and them going nuts if you say that there are two genders, don't give them what they want whether it's calling them by whatever pronoun they want or what they identify as. It's funny how people so anti-free speech are so fascist when it comes to pushing their believes on others. I'm sorry, but I don't have to adhere to your crazy doctrine because you have body dysmorphia or some other personal problem. 🙄

imagine thinking queer people are pushing their beliefs on you bc they’re asking for basic respect and to be left alone about it.

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27 minutes ago, God said:

imagine thinking queer people are pushing their beliefs on you bc they’re asking for basic respect and to be left alone about it.

To be fair, I would say the same is a straight person identified as everything from a woman to a sovereign citizen to Japanese and a cat. We used to think people were nuts when they thought they were Zeus or Jesus, but now if someone says they're a woman in a man's body or vice versa they're completely sane and don't need mental treatment even if gender dysphoria (sorry for the spelling error earlier I'll correct it asap) is a very real and treatable condition because you need help if you or your child is a biological male and trys to cut off their penis because they feel like they're in the wrong body 😢.  There's also people who just want to be different and identify as whatever suits them whenever it suits them, I'm pretty sure people with legit problems don't do that and don't bitch and moan and just about their daily lives. I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about the snowflakes and militant identitarions who have nothing better to do than to force their beliefs on everyone else. I don't believe in it when it comes to religion and I don't believe it with politics or identity politics, believe what you want and I'll believe or not believe what I want and you're not any more special or better than I am because of what you do or don't believe in. (Speaking in general and not in any way directed at you.).

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2 hours ago, secret_no_03 said:

Everything you said is true, except for the LGBT identitarions and them going nuts if you say that there are two genders, don't give them what they want whether it's calling them by whatever pronoun they want or what they identify as. It's funny how people so anti-free speech are so fascist when it comes to pushing their believes on others. I'm sorry, but I don't have to adhere to your crazy doctrine because you have body dysmorphia or some other personal problem. 🙄

Wow. I just remembered that in first place we got here because we are enthusiasts of musicians who happen to be a bunch of guys in drag...

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4 minutes ago, saiko said:

Wow. I just remembered that in first place we got here because we are enthusiasts of musicians who happen to be a bunch of guys in drag...

Come to think of it, that's true, but they're Japanese and Japan doesn't have the chaos America does as people wouldn't put up with it with the whole "the nail that sticks out gets hammered down" etc etc. 😮

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4 minutes ago, secret_no_03 said:

All modern female rappers are just awful and are talentless and are just thots out there twerking and trying to imitate anyone who can actually rap. 

Yes. Let’s just generalize all female rappers as a bunch of whores while ignoring the good ones 🙄

 

Just...no 

 

Seriously, could we stop generalizing music at this point. Stuff like “DAE ALL MODERN MUSIC SUCKS” or “ALL LYRICS ARE SHIT NOWADAYS”. Like seriously, you must be a boring person if that’s what you do all day.

 

It’s like saying all male rappers rap about how much pussy or molly they have when people forget about some actually talented people. It’s so fucking ignorant 

 

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3 minutes ago, psychonnect_rozen said:

Yes. Let’s just generalize all female rappers as a bunch of whores while ignoring the good ones 🙄

 

Just...no 

 

 

Not including those from the 80's and 90's, I did say modern after all.

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Obama deported more than 5M people and, separated and built those facilities with cages everyone is bitching about 5 years ago. Obama was even referred to as "Deporter in Chief" by immigration activists when he ran for re-election in 2012. I was actually flabbergasted when I saw that Bill Clinton had deported more than 12M. Apparently Trump isn't focused on deportation, just keeping people from getting in which is part of the problem as we need to do something about both aspects. Obama focused almost entirely on criminals, not sure about Bill or George. 🤔

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Japan did nothing wrong by bombing Pearl Harbor. They failed miserably and what they thought would happen didn't, but they did nothing wrong because war was inevitable and they were striking first.

 

https://pearlharborwarbirds.com/why-japan-attacked-pearl-harbor/

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@secret_no_03

 

The whole discussion about the necessity or estrategy of whether a centred or winged political position could be interesting at some point, but the actual scandalous way that you've constantly showed at the moment of bringing up serious stuff like a raging teeanger makes you no more different from the "SJWs" that you love to blame to, with all the generalizing, fanatic, ilogic and rude behaviour over it. Although considering "their" failures, at least they comitted (along other forces) to bring a 5% of decent media representation to lots of mislabeled 'minorities', among other stuff.

 

Btw, I said "ilogic", because I obviously can't pass over the fact that while you are blaming, let's say, "gender-non-conforming lifestyles" for instance, at the same time you speak out all your words of admiration over the work of transvestite underground musicians and discuss about weird porn and sex practices that are very far from the standards for sexuality that your self-proclaimed 'liberal' messiahs share. Perhaps I could have more respect for your opinion if you were more consistent, that is, instead of talking out that 'schizophreniac', you could show your whole disrespect for these topics arguing from, for example, a conservative vision over sex and gender, and consider Közi a sick dude with 'gender dysphoria' (if that ever existed), or the fellows at the Sex/porn thread to need  'God' in their lives, whatsoever... I mean, have you ever, EVER, considered what the authors you cite here supporting your delusional 'free-speech' ideas would think about your hobbies or sexual interests?

 

Sometimes I doubt I you are not more than a bored troll just trying to reach attention from people really concerned about these matters, because reading you is REALLY hillarious... MH was really a different place before you started your whole rant waterfall in every corner of it...

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3 minutes ago, saiko said:

The whole discussion about the necessity or estrategy of whether a centred or winged political position could be interesting at some point, but the actual scandalous way that you've constantly showed at the moment of bringing up serious stuff like a raging teeanger makes you no more different from the "SJWs" that you love to blame to, with all the generalizing, fanatic, ilogic and rude behaviour over it. Although considering "their" failures, at least they comitted (along other forces) to bring a 5% of decent media representation to lots of mislabeled 'minorities', among other stuff.

 

Btw, I said "ilogic", because I obviously can't pass over the fact that while you are blaming, let's say, "gender-non-conforming lifestyles" for instance, at the same time you speak out all your words of admiration over the work of transvestite underground musicians and discuss about weird porn and sex practices that are very far from the standards for sexuality that your self-proclaimed 'liberal' messiahs share. Perhaps I could have more respect for your opinion if you were more consistent, that is, instead of talking out that 'schizophreniac', you could show your whole disrespect for these topics arguing from, for example, a conservative vision over sex and gender, and consider Közi a sick dude with 'gender dysphoria' (if that ever existed), or the fellows at the Sex/porn thread to need  'God' in their lives, whatsoever... 

 

Sometimes I doubt I you are not more than a bored troll trying to reach attention from people really concerned about these matters, because reading you is REALLY hillarious... 

I legit had to put in “NO POLITICS” in my first post when I made this thread like 30 minutes ago to prevent a shit storm

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1 minute ago, psychonnect_rozen said:

I legit had to put in “NO POLITICS” in my first post when I made this thread like 30 minutes ago to prevent a shit storm

This hasn't to do with politics anymore, this has to do with basic rules of coherence, empathy and respect for the Other at the moment of thinking and sharing your opinion.

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4 hours ago, God said:

imagine thinking queer people are pushing their beliefs on you bc they’re asking for basic respect and to be left alone about it.

unpopular opinion: I will not respect they/them pronouns (unless it's an intersex person), because they are a joke. Transgenderism is no joke.

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1 minute ago, suji said:

unpopular opinion: I will not respect they/them pronouns (unless it's an intersex person), because they are a joke. Transgenderism is no joke.

even if it is a joke (and again, this isn’t me agreeing with that), how is it hurting anyone?  it’s pretty easy not to be a jerk.

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Jesus christ.

 

Regardless of what you may think about they/them pronouns or whatever, it’s not that hard to be respectful to a person who chooses to use those pronouns. If your being a dick about it that’s a whole other issue.

 

It’s common sense at this point. 

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10 minutes ago, God said:

even if it is a joke (and again, this isn’t me agreeing with that), how is it hurting anyone?  it’s pretty easy not to be a jerk.

It hurts transgender people and their credibility as a whole. Although transgender acceptance is growing, society still treats the act itself as a phase or a joke because of made-up pronouns. The act of being transgender means you have to pick a side: male to female, or female to male. That shouldn't be so hard to understand.

4 minutes ago, psychonnect_rozen said:

Jesus christ.

 

Regardless of what you may think about they/them pronouns or whatever, it’s not that hard to be respectful to a person who chooses to use those pronouns. If your being a dick about it that’s a whole other issue.

 

It’s common sense at this point. 

I don't respect people who don't respect real transgender people.

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page 1: ice cream's pretty bad guys

 

page 14: FUCK TRANNIES & GAYS, IMPERIAL JAPAN DID NOTHING WRONG, IT ISNT PEDOPHILIA TO WANT TO JACK IT TO CARTOON CHILDREN

 

this thread is somehow escalating as suddenly as your average shounen anime

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