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Anyone else getting over VK recently?

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These posts are always so subjective. People get into visual kei at such a young age, and their interests change. People tend to not listen to music they listened to as teenagers. Just saying. Music scenes change and grow--whether for better or worse, which is also subjective. I also think people get too attached to their favorite bands. Bands come and go. But their music stays around. 

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3 hours ago, Zeus said:


I would love to jump on the bandwagon...but to be fair growing up in visual kei we had a similar phenomenon, except the flavor of the decade back then was bland metalcore and bubbly oshare. The scene cares not for yesterday's interchangeable acts such as GHOSE, BIOSPHIA, DELACROIX, Crest of Aleist, DILIAL, Xepher, Re:dis, DIO -distraught overlord-, SHEDIA, DEPAIN, WERKMARE, THE RUDIE SATAN PARK, ichigo69, Diavro, GAUZES, GremlinS, トーマス, SCAPEGOAT, Since1889, Annabyss Coast, Gossip-ゴシップ-, Gimmick, DI3SIRAE, Deflina Ma'riage, Lustknot, JyuLie, 2the DISCOLAND, VIRGENOW, 2nd dyz, Heartless, Crazy shampoo, Golbeza, Dragonwapppppper, PIECElang, 東京指定., V-last., REALies, Zip.er, お遊戯ゎが魔々団×【PaRADEiS】, ZUCK, CANZEL, Called≠Plan, Zelktage, DIS★Marionette, Ap(r)il, 御主人様専用奇才楽団Virgil, xTRIPx, v[NEU] or 0801弐209336 -ゼロハチゼロイチニーニーゼロキュウサンサンロク-. Great bands, good bands, shit bands all forgotten to the sands of time. Half these bands are why people left the scene in the first place. Never forget the massive amount of shit we had to wade through when the scene was at its lowest.
 

Oh, hell yeah, I'm not trying to say that "generic, derivative flavor of the month" bands haven't been a part of the VK scene since its inception or anything. I mean, hell, that sort of stuff is common in just about every music scene. For example, take some of the late '00s indie acts Pitchfork hyped up to hell and back (like Sleigh Bells, Wavves, Yuck, Surfer Blood etc) that have at this point basically almost entirely vanished from the public eye..

 

In my personal case it's just that this stuff doesn't connect to what I'm currently looking for sound-wise, both the saccharine pop rock & the brutal core music that seem to dominate among the shit-to-mid tier bands have pretty much never really been my cup of tea, so it's only natural that at some point one starts to gradually float away from the scene in that case tbh. I'm not gonna entirely ditch it tho, VK's played an important part in shaping my musical taste, just can't really be assed to listen to 50 more bands that desperately wanna sound like Dir en grey or Dezert or w/e when I can just listen to the real stuff

 

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idk, i always think i'm over it, but then i find some random new band and sometimes i still straight binge on the stuff.  at this point i very srsly doubt i'll ever be "over it" lol

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On January 24, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Euthanasia said:

 

Sorry, but no. But I don't compare new bands to old bands either. If we compare bands all the time I don't think we'll ever find newer bands to like c: 

 

Preach.

 

Some VK fans in Chile keep whining about how today's bands aren't as great as some Matina band that was around for half a year. I don't see how that can be enjoyable...

 

To me 2016 was the year of discoveries, of jumping on the post 2006 bandwagon and trying the new scene. If you dig around you can find stuff you like. With like 80 new bands a year there's gotta be something that fits your taste.

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Sometimes I wish I could sticky my own threads on this forum.

 

 

Sorry I couldn't reply sooner, I've been busy.

Have a read through there, and perhaps you may get some insight from others here who felt the same way at some point.

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On 28-1-2017 at 2:58 AM, Komorebi said:

Preach.

 

Some VK fans in Chile keep whining about how today's bands aren't as great as some Matina band that was around for half a year. I don't see how that can be enjoyable...

 

To me 2016 was the year of discoveries, of jumping on the post 2006 bandwagon and trying the new scene. If you dig around you can find stuff you like. With like 80 new bands a year there's gotta be something that fits your taste.

 

There is no commanding someone elses' taste, however. There is a lot more to it than just being unable to find bands that musically appeal to these people (myself included). I always read how others say that bands cannot be compared (and truly, they cannot), yet there is always a persisting feeling present that inherently compares a listening experience to previous and past ones. For me personally, something in me cannot recreate the same emotional attachment when we place, say... Gossip-ゴシップ- (whom I adore) and Lareine (whom I of course, also adore) next to one another. They are completely different bands and I hold both in high regard, but something within me cannot reach as far toward Gossip-ゴシップ- as I do to Lareine. The music industry is ever changing and therefore people's perspective on music is also changing. I feel that my connections to current bands (especially in Visual kei, because of the unstability in the scene in general) are a lot more shallow and insincere. I cannot connect to the music or the faces behind the music all that much anymore and I feel like my favourite musicians are simply set in stone, without much room to let new names in. Incidentially, these names are all from twenty or thirty years in the past, and I sorely miss their presence. While there are some new names I enjoy, they just cannot live up to what I experienced while discovering bands that are long gone but left a much greater impact.

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@Lestat, you are absolutely right. New bands you like won't have the same impact or mean as much to you. That's an undeniable fact.

 

I should have been more specific. I keep encountering people who refuse to TRY OUT anything post 2005. Not even a "I heard it, didn't dig it. I like the 90's sound" but a "they don't look like a 90's band so they probably suck". Those are those I complain about. Those who talk ill of bands they haven't even bothered listening, and the reasons for not listening to them are "I don't like how they look", "new GazettE sucks, so all bands now probably suck", "their fans are teenagers so they can't be good", "they all look the same so they have to sound the same". 

 

The pessimistic attitude of people who refuse to even try the new scene and their shitthrowing at newer bands they haven't even heard is exhausting. I've gone to parties where they ONLY play indies music from Matina bands and such because if you dare play something post 2006 or something major the majority of the "old farts" (27 +years old) will literally leave the dance floor and start complaining. They don't even stay and listen to something they might dig and it's like they are afraid of liking something new and have their precious reputation of "true VK fan" ruined. And I say true VK in quotation marks because I have LITERALLY heard them talk about what VK is supposed to look like and sound like and cross out VK bands as non VK because they don't look like Kuroyume in 1997.

No one says you can't enjoy old stuff, but this country has the ENORMEOUS luck of having a thriving scene. The incredible luck of having a meet up for the Deathgaze ST and have 70, yes, seventy, people show up in the same town. There's at least 4 or 5 event producers who try to include VK in their cons and events, throw parties and even bring artists, but this can't go anywhere if half of VK fans are trying real hard to keep the scene in the 90's and early 2000's and I swear I cannot understand why they are so obsessed with that.

 

I hope my little rant made some sense and didn't feel too biased.

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On 1/23/2017 at 8:59 PM, midi:nette said:

I'm gonna admit, I hate most of the new bands coming up these days, yet I stan the hell out of older bands like MERRY, Megaromania, etc. However, this year, I've checked out some recent stuff like Moran and Crucifixion, and older stuff like Deadman, and I really liked it. For the rest of the year, I'm making it my goal to check out other bigger bands that I haven't listened to yet and broaden up my vk horizons a bit more, since I feel like I'm totally missing out at the moment.

That's what I've been really trying to do as well.

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VK4EVER!

 

JK 

 

I've tried to pull away from it but since bands I like are still going I can't look away from them and the evolution they take. @_@ I'm not really sure why but I just like. A lot of my favorites have disbanded and I suppose once the last few do I'll only have the bands that I liked unless some new awesome stuff pops up but I highly doubt that. 

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Musically, most bands today don't catch my attention. I admit most bands today play much better than older bands, but they don't play the kind of music that I like in Visual Kei. I also see the theatrical aspect of Visual Kei lost, there is no dramatization of any kind anymore except for a few bands here and there. I also feel like for many Visual Kei bands today their looks are meaningless, there's not real or at least minimal purpose in dressing and looking like that in an artistic sense.

 

Visual Kei cannot be always at the top just like no other music style/scene is at the top forever. Sooner or later they dwindle and lose their initial appeal among the crowd. Goth was the thing in the past; it isn't anymore. Metal was the thing in the past; it isn't anymore and etc. All styles lose their appeal to some degree someday.

 

I'm not over Visual Kei, I still love it; it's just that there is less offered for my taste.

 

 

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For me, being in my mid 20's and having gotten into VK when I was barely a teenager, I started to be less tolerant of a lot of songs that I'd listen to more openly when I was younger. For example, i'd like certian parts of songs but not choruses or bridges and stuff and just simply block out all the parts I wouldn't like. But as I'm getting older, i'm finding a lot of the music just isn't catchy or is just downright terrible to listen to for me. I consider myself a fan of VK but there's so few songs by a band that I say I like, that I actually like, I'm really not sure if I truly am the fan I say I am. That being said, I'll be following VK for the rest of my life I'm sure haha

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