Kiryu999 3336 Posted July 13, 2015 Yes finally a new PV! Sounds good (and they wrote "graveyad" lol) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Heavy mk II 7200 Posted July 13, 2015 They must have visited Boston recently ^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lestat 2167 Posted July 13, 2015 My poor heart. Why should they go out with this bang? They have finally found their sound with this lineup, so why go? Why not simply release this monster and be certain of proper promotion so they can get those sales going? This is incredible, this PV looks absolutely incredible, I love this so much. 1 suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-NOVA- 3026 Posted July 14, 2015 Yes finally a new PV! Sounds good (and they wrote "graveyad" lol) maybe thats why the original got taken down lol 4 Mihenno, Lestat, suji and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lichtlune 915 Posted July 14, 2015 I wish they would just release their "promotional" videos. No wonder they're having issues financially. They put so much work and money into these videos and where do they go? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seikun 317 Posted July 14, 2015 I just started to listen to Lin last year, but I wonder how much this "hiatus" was influenced by the change of vocal and sound... I suppose as time goes by there is less and less room for the old melodies in Visual Kei... Kind of a whole movement in decline. 2 Lestat and suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lestat 2167 Posted July 14, 2015 Their PVs are often gifts that are rewarded to their webshop's customers. It's not unlike how other bands sell their videos; they are either type-based or sold separately at special occasions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lestat 2167 Posted July 14, 2015 And I agree with you, @seikun. Where do we hear sounds from active bands like this anymore? We have them on Starwave Records, and we have them on 凛. Ironically, both Kiwamu and Kisaki are artists people don't listen to by default — people couldn't care less whether their music was miraculous or not, their image and notoriousness comes first. And this results in how people are looking for a sound that's right under their noses, but they just refuse to support those two guys. 1 Silverhawk33 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takadanobabaalien 3607 Posted July 14, 2015 I don't think the problem is on oversea fans considering how little they probably get from cd sales anyway. The real problem is that Japanese fans don't go to their shows, or rather that they don't have enough Japanese fans who care enough. The Japanese fans are more into bands like nokubura, arlequin etc, not this kind of music. 2 Serox and suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lestat 2167 Posted July 14, 2015 That's what I've said dozens of times before. Metalcore has crawled its way into the scene and it has completely taken over. It's difficult to find bands that support clean vocals, and when you find them, they usually switch to death vocals on their next release because it attracts the scene's current audience. Most bands that don't want to stray from their clean and melodic sound are practically done for. 2 suji and Silverhawk33 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brandon 18 Posted July 14, 2015 I don't really agree. It's quiet sad if they can't live off of this band, but Phantasmagoria would kick ass anytime, even now. In fact Kisaki can't write such amazing things by himself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lestat 2167 Posted July 14, 2015 I have seen less than a handful of people on this forum who appreciate Phantasmagoria even the slightest, and that sort of represents today's Visual Kei fan's taste, yes? They wouldn't have an impact on today's scene if this band existed right in this moment, for you can already see that melodious bands don't receive attention (which is exactly what I have been trying to say for the past few posts). And you know that Kisaki writes most of his bands' material, right? The other members only have a slight impact. Visual Kei bands usually have one writer, credits are just given to others to make it appear more divided between members for an audience's eyes. 1 suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
herpes 1597 Posted July 14, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc6hhbemgI4 maybe thats why the original got taken down lol know i'll be dismissed as a ~hater~, but christ this is embarrassingly bad. Melodically a mess, arrangement all over the place, synths sounding cheaper than ever. Whatever happened to the band who released silent to my pain. I have seen less than a handful of people on this forum who appreciate Phantasmagoria even the slightest A lot of people appreciate Laputa who they stole half their riffs from though if that counts! 3 Takadanobabaalien, saishuu and Peace Heavy mk II reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Heavy mk II 7200 Posted July 14, 2015 Kinda agreeing with Herbs here, this isn't their best effort in many senses. The only they seemed to do really well here is put their budget into getting a music video with a good camera. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brandon 18 Posted July 14, 2015 I have seen less than a handful of people on this forum who appreciate Phantasmagoria even the slightest, and that sort of represents today's Visual Kei fan's taste, yes? They wouldn't have an impact on today's scene if this band existed right in this moment, for you can already see that melodious bands don't receive attention (which is exactly what I have been trying to say for the past few posts). And you know that Kisaki writes most of his bands' material, right? The other members only have a slight impact. Visual Kei bands usually have one writer, credits are just given to others to make it appear more divided between members for an audience's eyes. I think absolutely different, Phantasmagoria and Lin is so far from each other. Look, i respect that you love this band, i agree the metalcore has grown huge but, as @herpes said, Lin is a mess. I feel so absolutely, a long time ago.... since Metamorphose. Kisaki has a lot of good idea, but it doesn't turn out well like in Phantasmagoria, because you can be 100% sure the Phantasmagoria's songs have not written only by Kisaki. Jun and Iori did an amazing job in arrangement and he could work better with Riku about lyrics at that time. Lin had a big chance to be famous just because of Kisaki and Riku's history, but the songs was not enough good, that's it. Look at the Oricon first week sales. As if Forever Exists 2000+, Metamorphose ~900, Silent To My pain ~700. Flowers Bloom ~400 and since that it's getting worse and worse. It's not because the scene changed, it's because the people realized Lin won't be ever on the same level of Phantasmagoria and they gave up on this band. Even with Megaromania members the band didn't upgrade so much. 3 suji, Serox and doombox reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seikun 317 Posted July 14, 2015 I like Phantasmagoria, although I like their darker side, not so much at the end getting softer. As for Lin, as I said, I have been listening to the band since last year. I like what the band did with Riku and thr other band members. I don't dislike Sui at all, but changing the vocalist and consequenlty a change in sound made the band too different. By the way, since you are talking about VK switching to metalcore, is the synth era (I don't know how to say it better) kind of gone? I mean the sound as in songs like Limit by ν[NEU] that was so popular since 2010 at least. 1 suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trombe 22025 Posted July 16, 2015 SUI & MIZALY session will perform at Shibuya REX at 2015/09/25 session members:Vo.SUI (凛(lin))Gt.MIZALY (凛(lin))Gt.NAO (CELL)Ba.綜(sou) (Minerva)Dr.クロ(kuro) (SLINGER) 1 Serox reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trombe 22025 Posted August 7, 2015 CERO will hold his birthday presents live "Here's looking at me, kid Vol.2" at HOLIDAY OSAKA at 2015/12/01, at which his birthday session will perform CERO birthday session members: Vo.SUI (凛(lin)) Gt.CERO (凛(lin)) Gt.Cecir (ex-E'm～grief～) Ba.Ray (Dead Children) Dr.YUSHI (凛(lin)) Gt.Cecir will no longer participate in CERO birthday session live "Here's looking at me, kid Vol.2" at HOLIDAY OSAKA at 2015/12/01 due to his family reasons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trombe 22025 Posted September 25, 2015 SUI & MIZALY session SET-LIST at 2015/09/25: 01.ナイフ(knife) (La'Mule)02.Nightmarish... (凛(lin))03.百花繚乱(hyakkaryouran) (MIRAGE)04.壇場の棘(danjou no toge) (CELL) 3 Serox, Chi and Takadanobabaalien reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peace Heavy mk II 7200 Posted September 25, 2015 A+ Setlist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lestat 2167 Posted September 29, 2015 From 2015.09.28, 22:00JST to 2015.10.11, 23:59JST, the band is offering sets of 10 random cheki for ¥5.000 at which will be included a personalized comment DVD by the member of your choice. According to previous occasions, this bandmember will personally address you in this video and give a short blurb on what's in store for him in the future. Upon ordering, make certain you specify to whom the message should be addressed to, as well as specifying which member you would like to receive a message from. FromJapan is very consistent with this and if you write up this request upon making an order with them, they execute it flawlessly. A second time-limited offer is yet another bootleg DVD as was recorded on 2015.07.12 at ESAKA MUSE. The DVD is around 50 minutes and costs ¥3.780, for which the same dates and times stand on the limitations of the offer. http://lin-official.shop-pro.jp/ 1 suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trombe 22025 Posted October 25, 2015 CERO birthday session new line-up at 2015/12/01:Vo.SUI (凛(lin))Gt.CERO (凛(lin))Gt.Takeshi (GLARD)Ba.Ray (Dead Children)Dr.YUSHI (凛(lin)) 1 suji reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suji 8317 Posted October 25, 2015 (individual members pics are yet to be released) 2 kyoisKILLINGME and Chi reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DESTINYGUY0316 363 Posted October 25, 2015 nothing new again in hiatus XD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
