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This isn't for "shaming" on your doctor or on your own process coming through depression, but have you considered starting a psychological therapy instead of taking pills? Or at least while taking them?

5 hours ago, Zeus said:

I've been on antidepressants for 9 days and GHYLGADLGAJIODLKGL i just wanna quit. Happy pills sure make me feel like crap physically.

 

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28 minutes ago, nullmoon said:

I think Zoloft is known as Sertraline over here in the UK. I ended up getting physical shakes and spasms from it after a while so I knew for sure to stop taking that XD 

that's its generic name, and those are some brutal side-effects tbh (zoloft does the "brain zap" thing if you're dropping it without easing out/replacing it with something else, but it happens months or like years into being on it, not during the early adjustment stage  - that's absolutely not normal),

 

 

which is also an example of how powerful this stuff is in a negative way when for some reason your brain chemistry doesn't agree with what the pills are producing.

 

I hope you found a better alternative for it, there're newer (and for some people way better) alternatives too.

 

 

there's no real benefit in sticking to something that makes you feel awful while you still have options - however your dr might not be too inclined to offer them for like their own personal reasons, which was my point. it's not immediately obvious that sometimes you will be better off just talking to a dr that takes your complaints more seriously, given the amount of various biases that potentially contribute to their assessment.

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19 minutes ago, nekkichi said:

I hope you found a better alternative for it, there're newer (and for some people way better) alternatives too.

Currently on Citalopram but it literally has no effect on me. 

 

20 minutes ago, nekkichi said:

There's no real benefit in sticking to something that makes you feel awful while you still have options - however your dr might not be too inclined to offer them for like their own personal reasons, which was my point. it's not immediately obvious that sometimes you will be better off just talking to a dr that takes your complaints more seriously, given the amount of various biases that potentially contribute to their assessment.

Oh totally. If the doctor isn't taking feedback seriously then they have to go. 

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21 hours ago, Zeus said:

celexa 10mg. i'm supposed to ride it out for 2 weeks but i'm not sure if the side effects are going to go away like ~they said they would~

The side effects are entirely normal. Anti-depressants are essentially harddrugs and are an invasive subject to your body and your body will fight them at first, you'll have to get used to them. When I first started Prozac I suffered from terrible migraines which I normally never had, fever-like convulsions, sweating excessively and generally feeling physically dreadful for three weeks or so. I don't generally understand the States' idea of prescription medicine since it seems like just about everyone can get them feeling the slighest cough coming up, but here anti-depressants are only prescribed by certified psychiatrists who know what they're talking about, and know the consequences of first time usage. If your doctor prepared you properly for what it's going to take to ride it out you should go with the process. It's not pretty at first but you should start feeling results after about two months or so. 

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9 hours ago, suji said:

guys, we made it

 

asmr-kei is here #thankupoidol

 

 

we really were that close to the first official『ASMR』 Kawaii Pentagon Bassist Want You To Be His Mate For Life video coming out

 

yet also so far 💔

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20 minutes ago, Lestat said:

The side effects are entirely normal. Anti-depressants are essentially harddrugs and are an invasive subject to your body and your body will fight them at first, you'll have to get used to them.

this is someone having a good reaction to their rx:

 

 

I can pen down a quick list of reasons I absolutely loved zoloft and there would be a dozen for sure, the only downside is that eventually it fizzed out and stopped working. I switched to another drug (which I enjoyed bc. effexor high like wheeeew who knew??????) mainly to avoid potential withdrawals, and by the time I switched I no longer was in the place that led me to taking The Pharma Pill.

 

I also had about five years of self-medicating with whatever stacks of herbal concoctions IT nerds would later discover for themselves en masse around 2018, and the difference between that and a proper AD was a major one as well.

 

your dr is lazy and weird, I'm not even sure you even noticed any improvement from w/e you're taking, ADs do indeed have real lasting negative side-effects, and you're telling someone to learn to cope with negativity outweighting the benefit for..... what?

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11 minutes ago, nekkichi said:

your dr is lazy and weird, I'm not even sure you even noticed any improvement from w/e you're taking, ADs do indeed have real lasting negative side-effects, and you're telling someone to learn to cope with negativity outweighting the benefit for..... what?

Quite certain that you do not know my doctor as we're from entirely different continents. Quite certain you do not know me as anything else but whatever your assertation of me is and therefore cannot ascertain anything about my lasting mental improvements while taking Prozac. Quite certain that two to three weeks of feeling miserable from sudden and invasive drug-intake and your body being bombarded by chemicals does not equal to 'lasting negative side effects'. You read what you wish to read. 

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I bought senran kagura burst re:newal and all I got to say is, what the absolute fuck.

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On 6/8/2019 at 5:54 AM, platy said:

I used to go on this internet personality gossip forum religiously. It's been a month since I've last been on it and I use my time much better lol

 

lol, I can imagine. Gossip is inherently toxic. I used to indulge in it and hang around others who did as well, until I realized A) It's dull, life-less chatter that doesn't benefit anyone or anything and B ) I'm a grown-ass man. And any grown man that sits around gossiping is not much of a man at all. That's some simp shit.

 

Ancient wisdom tells us a few things like:

 

"A gossip betrays a confidence; so avoid anyone who talks too much."

 

"A perverse person stirs up conflict, and a gossip separates close friends. "

 

and I've found these both to be true. The same people I used to gossip with are the same people who are quick to talk shit about me (behind my back) today. As these types of ppl have no integrity and are basically fake as hell. And I've also literally lost friends (or ppl i thought were friends at least) over things that other ppl said about me. As truth doesn't matter to these kinds of ppl - they'll take one side of a story and run with it, instead of diligently seeking into a matter.

 

So yeah, gossip is just toxic. It's a like a black hole of drama and chaos. But I can definitely say that I've been much more productive and my life has been much more positive since I made a conscious effort to avoid gossiping and gossipers alike!

 

 

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Your Brain Is Built to Make You Good at Gossip

As author Yuval Harari argued in his book Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind, gossip is the foundation of our species’ survival. (#stream_psychopass)

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“Social cooperation is our key for survival and reproduction. It is not enough for individual men and women to know the whereabouts of lions and bisons,” he wrote. “It’s much more important for them to know who in their band hates whom, who is sleeping with whom, who is honest and who is a cheat.” This information about which individuals could be trusted — in other words, gossip — allowed early humans not only to survive, but also to expand their tribes. Long hours spent gossiping helped the early humans to forge friendships and hierarchies, which, in turn, helped to establish the social order and cooperation that eventually set them apart from the rest of the animal kingdom.

And with a skill so vital to everyday life, it makes sense that our brains are structured to help us hone it. Gossiping or sharing social knowledge involves retrieving previously acquired information about an individual from our vast social network, a process that’s more complicated than it sounds. In 1992, a seminal research paper in the British Journal of Psychology suggested that names are unique cues that trigger patterns of recall about a person; other studies have examined faces as cues. A 2005 study in the journal Nature, for example, found that a single neuron in the brain was activated when a participant looked at pictures of the actress Halle Berry, but that it failed to do the same for other famous faces. (Interestingly, the same lone cell also responded to an image of Berry’s name, leading one researcher to speculate that it was really responding to “the concept of Halle Berry” more than any one visual image.)

Now, new research sheds a little more light on how the brain is built to process gossip: In a study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, researchers identified an area called the anterior temporal lobe, or ATL, as a sort of hub for social knowledge and personal identities. When someone asks you to recall a piece of information about a specific person, this is the part of the brain that springs into action.

 

https://www.thecut.com/2017/03/your-brain-is-built-to-make-you-good-at-gossip.html

 

I love when stressed out ppl temporarily lose control over whatever brain vaults they usually keep tightly locked out; that shit is typically the real thing, on the contrary a lil bit goss is fun and the tea is good iced and hot.

 

which reminds me I didn't get involved with talking behind so and sos backs and regret all the drama I've missed out on creating bc. like had other priorities and shit, and the momentum has been long gone since.

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52 minutes ago, nekkichi said:

As author Yuval Harari argued in his book Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind, gossip is the foundation of our species’ survival. (#stream_psychopass)

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https://www.thecut.com/2017/03/your-brain-is-built-to-make-you-good-at-gossip.html

 

I love when stressed out ppl temporarily lose control over whatever brain vaults they usually keep tightly locked out; that shit is typically the real thing, on the contrary a lil bit goss is fun and the tea is good iced and hot.

 

which reminds me I didn't get involved with talking behind so and sos backs and regret all the drama I've missed out on creating bc. like had other priorities and shit, and the momentum has been long gone since.

Well... there's a difference between talking about someone behind their back because they're a genuinely bad person and talking about someone behind their back because of "the tea". I think the first one is okay because they deserve to have people warned against them if that's the case, but the second one can actually be really hurtful. Just because we can do something, that doesn't mean we should. I also greatly disapprove of those people who think it's okay to just straight-up lie about people for the sake of entertainment. Yeah, okay, our brains can process it, but the person whose expense it's at can't, hence why they get so upset; and rightfully so.

 

1 hour ago, CAT5 said:

The same people I used to gossip with are the same people who are quick to talk shit about me (behind my back) today. As these types of ppl have no integrity and are basically fake as hell.

Chances are, if people are willing to gossip about someone else, they're willing to gossip about you. It's all very well and good until it comes back to bite you on the arse.

 

Besides, we could go on forever about things our brains are built to process. They're also built to process having a tiger chase us - hence our fight or flight response - but that doesn't mean you should go to the jungle and provoke a seven-hundred-pound predator.

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10 minutes ago, Gesu said:

Well... there's a difference between talking about someone behind their back because they're a genuinely bad person and talking about someone behind their back because of "the tea".

why would you talk about a genuinely bad person (it's literally the type you should cold-shoulder out of your life entirely) vs dropping random truth teas now and than so girlies can have some kiis

 

12 minutes ago, Gesu said:

Besides, we could go on forever about things our brains are built to process. They're also built to process having a tiger chase us - hence our fight or flight response - but that doesn't mean you should go to the jungle and provoke a seven-hundred-pound predator.

ohmygod I think u've just figured out why people go on furaffinity all the damn time!!! adrenaline rush!!!!!

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1 hour ago, nekkichi said:

Gossiping or sharing social knowledge

 

There's a difference between gossip and simply sharing knowledge, and it lies in one's intent. Gossip is usually driven by ill-intentions.

 

1 hour ago, nekkichi said:

Your Brain Is Built to Make You Good at Gossip

 

The brain/body is built to do many things. However, the manner in which those things are done matters a great deal. The intent matters.

 

For instance, it's probably not a good idea to defend someone's cocaine  addiction by saying "well, the brain is built to secrete dopamine anyways!", and just leave it at that.

 

In similar fashion, that would be like explaining away the actions of a rapist by saying "well, science says you were built to procreate, so, it's all good."

 

That's an interesting article you linked, but this is a spiritual issue. So intent matters.

 

You can either try to bring peace and understanding to a matter or you can sow discord and seeds of contempt and condemnation . Gossip tends to do the latter.

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7 minutes ago, nekkichi said:

why would you talk about a genuinely bad person (it's literally the type you should cold-shoulder out of your life entirely) vs dropping random truth teas now and than so girlies can have some kiis

Because we deserve to know about genuinely bad people. I'd be much more interested in a murderer/rapist/kidnapper/what-have-you in my vicinity than someone who had sex with someone or whatever. Like... ahh, oh no, it's a person having sex. Big deal.

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I don’t know about gossiping, but I for sure LOVE talking trash with my close friends about people we don’t like XD.

Or like when you become friends with someone because you hate the same people 😂.

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15 minutes ago, CAT5 said:

The brain/body is built to do many things. However, the manner in which those things are done matters a great deal. The intent matters.

 

For instance, it's probably not a good idea to defend someone's cocaine  addiction by saying "well, the brain is built to secrete dopamine anyways!", and just leave it at that.

you can also argue that cocaine (and other drug dependencies) are hereditary and have more control over someone's habits than said someone having control over their drug habits VS rape as an issue of power control, stimulated by idk unrestrained sadistic/sociopath urges;

one doesn't necessarily harm anyone but the addict (and whoever involved in the production chain crime), another one is inherently violent and traumatising.

 

we def. haven't evolved into a species of addicts or rapists, but we aren't remotely as spiritual or well-intending as we pretend to be as a whole.

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In similar fashion, that would be like explaining away the actions of a rapist by saying "well, science says you were built to procreate, so, it's all good."

ummmm I have lots of questions why you're comparing rape to procreation in the first place; I can counter-act that by current porn culture (gay or straight) dominated by rape tropes (there's both the demand and it's abundantly met by the supply), but I can't think of anyone watching child birth videos for entertainment. the intent behind both acts is clearly different, even if mechanics are vaguely overlapping lmao.

 

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You can either try to bring peace and understanding to a matter or you can sow discord and seeds of contempt and condemnation . Gossip tends to do the latter.

what if the involved parties are not worth mediating but the tea can be spillT?

 

6 minutes ago, Gesu said:

Because we deserve to know about genuinely bad people. I'd be much more interested in a murderer/rapist/kidnapper/what-have-you in my vicinity than someone who had sex with someone or whatever. Like... ahh, oh no, it's a person having sex. Big deal.

which is the reason why public sex offender registries exist?... 

 

4 minutes ago, Triangle said:

I don’t know about gossiping, but I for sure LOVE talking trash with my close friends about people we don’t like XD.

Or like when you become friends with someone because you hate the same people 😂.

yasss we stan a confession!!!

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6 minutes ago, nekkichi said:

what if the involved parties are not worth mediating but the tea can be spillT?

Like I said, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. If they're not worth mediating - that is to say, if they're so low that they're not even worth helping - why are they worth talking about? It won't do anything and there are more important things to be doing and more important conversations to be had; like this one, for instance. I know I probably sound like an old fart, but that's my two cents.

 

7 minutes ago, nekkichi said:

which is the reason why public sex offender registries exist?...

Right, but that doesn't explain why we deserve to pry into innocent people's private lives when they haven't actually done anything wrong. I know more stories that may or may not be true about people doing whatever than I care to purely from overhearing what people near me have said, but I don't know any sex offenders in my area.

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@nekkichi - sis,  I love you, but you just completely missed my points, and now you just debating for debate's sake.  :hum:

 

I feel where ya commin' from overall tho. Me personally, i'm good on all that gossip stuff. I would never recommend it, but aye, do what works for you - i ain't mad at it!

 

 

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managed to find lyrics for the band M and i always thought koko ni iru yo was some kind of love ballad but damn, that song hits me even harder just knowing how dark and edgy it is

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9 hours ago, CAT5 said:

@nekkichi - sis,  I love you, but you just completely missed my points.  :hum:

nnn I feel like it did happen at some point.

 

9 hours ago, Gesu said:

Like I said, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. If they're not worth mediating - that is to say, if they're so low that they're not even worth helping - why are they worth talking about? It won't do anything and there are more important things to be doing and more important conversations to be had; like this one, for instance. I know I probably sound like an old fart, but that's my two cents.

I have morbid interest in the way braindead ppl operate, and they generally provide enough clownery that simply passing it around ( = gossip) is a lot of fun by itself.

it also only applies to the situations I can't really do anything to change my social circle, otherwise indeed - focusing on doing something better would be the very first reasonable option;

sometimes fun trumps reason <3

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