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I wasnt gonna respond anymore to this but i just have to XD actually dreamy sweeties was the BEST name we could pick for a mock idol band , because it is basically the most sterotypical idol band name EVER XD 
 
also fairy kei is a japanese fashion that basically is stuff like fluffy frilly skirts and sweaters and baggy shirts and leggings. A lot like decora but without all the extra accessories 

You couldn't pick a better name? Dreamy Sweeties? lol its a little funny but I'd like to hear how it all turns out! You should update this thread with news and demo's. 
 
Also, what is fairy kei? o.o

omg.
 
How to do the music thing:
You play the thing, get better at the thing, be inspired by whatever thing you want, and do your thing.
How to handle not liking a thing:
Don't listen to or care about the thing.
 
There's really sh*tty japanese musicians, there's really sh*tty American musicians, Candadian musicians, Chinese musicians, cat musicians and dog musicians. Just like when it comes to races, there's shitty people in every country, every state, every city, every race, but there's good people too.
Sure, the bands might not be good, but i'm pretty sure the japanese bands weren't that great when they first started out either. NEWS FLASH: NO ONE IS JUST BORN WITH IT, IT'S NOT MAYBELLINE. Unfortunately, the STYLE (visually) of Visual kei that we see now and influences most foreigners to be "VK" is more popular in Japan, and I feel that's the only thing one really needs to define as "VK" or "VK inspired" since music from the visual kei scene (as mentioned before) is composed of several different mainstream and not so mainstream genres. Literally any popular music genre is an evolved form of another genre (which is probably evolved from another and another and another....), nothing is original. There's not a single note or beat that hasn't been created, played, and over used in music (PERIOD.) 
I think the main problem (which was dully mentioned early) is that foreign vk inspired musicians are young, inexperienced, and simply rushing in to things. But at least they have something to look up to.
You don't have to be any race to do music. Music is about expression and just because you don't like the way someone wrote their lyrics doesn't mean everyone else is going to follow in suit.
And yes, don't you dare say it's not because of this reason: Foreign fans are set on the belief that if they're not Japanese it's not worth my time and it sucks. Even if the band is good. I've known a few good western vk-influenced bands that sounds 10 times better than indie shit in the vk scene in japan, but no one looks at them twice because they're not Japanese.
I remember reading an interview from Jimi (Originally in chemical pictures) and he had stated that the Japanese fanbase were very open to him and very excited and welcoming, most of the hate mail he had received was from foreigners!
I will gladly search to the end of the earth and back for that link.... actually no...
I'll find it now.
(30 min searching frenzy....)
 
LOOK
 
and in case you don't want to read through the whole interview to find it:
 
Jimi: I don't get any criticism anymore (or at least I don't see them!) but in over three years I have had only one Japanese person say anything even remotely mean. I got a message on my old Chemical Pictures Japanese blog from a Japanese girl that said, “Go back to your country!” which is just laughable, harmless xenophobia. The vast majority of criticism I received was from western people. They said I was ugly, they said I was an idiot or a jerk, they were all-in-all highly against the idea of a non-Japanese in a Japanese band. The truth is that I am not the first, not by a long shot. Ben from the old Chaos System, the brothers from MONKEY MAJIK, Shen from Def Tech, and Jero. So there's precedence. Why was it different when it was visual kei, and a more visible visual kei band?
 
 
So that's what I think. Jimi is actually a good musician though, but even so it was because he wasn't Japanese that a lot of foreigners didn't accept him :/ 

and i swear to lord jeebus if you say this irrelevant you are incorrect because it so is. >:'[


this post is intended for heated debate and not arguing or insults so please keep it mature <3
 
Edit: On a side note about vocal talent, there's so many aspects on how to judge whether or not someone is a talented singer or not. I've heard vocalists that can hit amazing ranges and hold solid notes while flawlessly staying in key, on the technical side, they're a great vocalist, then you have the ones who just go balls out and sing whatever and hope they hit one correct note, and some people dig that uncontrolled sound (which a lot of vk bands have, sorry not sorry), then you have the medium of someone who has a pretty good technique, stamina, and emotion etc etc. and then you get in to actual vocal styles.... i think it's all based on personal preference... for the most part.

I'll take the bait and debate with you. I posit that there are, in fact, no shitty dog artists. Prove me wrong, punk.

Hmmm,'kay then ;_;
I'll keep watching this thread.

I'm a guy and i've come to ruin your all girls club   

I think when it comes to throwing in random bits of another language, it goes over best when it isn't really audible to most people, or at least not blatantly saying "this isn't in English." For example, the ending theme of "Wreck-It Ralph" was in Japanese, but because of the vocal mixing and overall business of the song, none of my family members who saw it with me believed that it wasn't in English because of the few lines that actually were in English.
 
The same goes for vkei in a sense. Take "Myaku" by Dir en Grey, for example: parts of that song are in English but because of Kyo's Tourette's it doesn't really sound like it is in any language, so I just -assumed- it was Japanese until I actually saw the lyrics: "SKY. BOX. SAND. GOD. DREAM." etc. Had I been able to actually understand what he was saying, it wouldn't have had the same affect on me.
 
Sticking with small phrases should do the same as that example. Other Western bands do that, but with (cringing as I type this) 'normal' foreign languages. Like U2 using Spanish, and 30 Seconds to Mars using French. Unfortunately, Japanese is like the epitome of 'foreign' to most occidental people, even though you can't really concretely measure the degree in which a language is not English. It either is, or isn't. Just because you are more likely to learn French in high school doesn't mean it is any less not English than Swahili.
 
Personally adding a request for "mawaru mawaru."

I'm a guy and i've come to ruin your all girls club   

http://torrentfreak.com/music-piracy-is-not-a-problem-its-an-excuse-120630/
 
This

http://torrentfreak.com/music-piracy-is-not-a-problem-its-an-excuse-120630/
 
This

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr8haqXC6Ko it was already posted here but looks to be removed

It's really annoying when ricchu tries to start an argument

jelly?

Everyone is ugly! just kidding

I don't think I've done this before... this is me when feeling more artistic and expressive than usual

oh the hurt :c lol 
 
Anyway I'm the vocalist and i agree we suck but gotta start somewhere! in my case from the very bottom but what can i do? its me! At least i have the courage to try and i will continue to do so.   

oh the hurt :c lol 
 
Anyway I'm the vocalist and i agree we suck but gotta start somewhere! in my case from the very bottom but what can i do? its me! At least i have the courage to try and i will continue to do so.   

We're a kote kei/industrial gothic metal fusion project we're online based now, forming an actual band is difficult and this is more of a way to gain experience without as much hassle.
 
if you're interested here's our facebook page:
 
https://www.facebook.com/Altermalice.Official?fref=ts
 
https://www.facebook.com/AltermaliceNero
 
contact me through facebook! its nice to have many friendds in the music scene 

1: X Japan
2: Galneryus
3: Dir en Grey
4: Luna Sea
5: Kuroyume
 
I could only find five   most of these are ex-visual kei too lol though most of my non-vkei is classical artists and anime stuff.

If it doesn't work out you could try what i'm doing and that's an online based project!

i love his voice so far personally

I give you my leave to try as hard as you can, but at the end of the day you can't discuss music to much extent without comparison. People before you have tried and failed. If this were a new HIZAKI project I could say that you have a good point. I could even concede if it was a HIZAKI x TERU collaboration. But comparisons between a past band and a previous band are inevitable when 4/5 of one band forms a new band. If anything, Versailles is the best band to "compare" to because of compositional and stylistic similarities that will arise because of who is in the band.
Even if they went in a completely different direction and played honky-tonk country metal, they will always be compared to Versailles. Always. May as well just deal with it now.

Maybe It'll be a special announcement announcing the next announcement of the album which will be announced in another announcement within the next decade or two.

Maybe It'll be a special announcement announcing the next announcement of the album which will be announced in another announcement within the next decade or two.

Maybe It'll be a special announcement announcing the next announcement of the album which will be announced in another announcement within the next decade or two.