sleepy coffee

I wouldn't count older bands for this one even if some of us were already around ( Kagerou and Deadman. Both the scene is different and we are older which changes things a lot ) nor bands that obviously started sucking hard later on and causing people to turn on them like Mucc and Girugamesh, but even to this day the few who stuck by D'espairsray even after their mortifyingly awful fourth album is beyond me ( and anyone who likes anything off of that album ought to stop listening to music altogether. ) However, I'd also say 9Goats Blackout was decently popular in the western fandom and the handful of people that didn't like them didn't bother reminding people about it all the time. I guess Moran as well and some Ains stuff, but I'd also say that apart from Grieva they didn't really arouse any feelings in the opposition and were therefore largely left alone to disband in their own time. 

Other bands just don't get the rocket attached to them quite like say, Mejibray did and then the negative response is also quieter. For a band like that I'd go ahead and say that Kizu is doing a lot better for itself in the western fandom than a lot of the bands from the Royz era that felt like were going to go somewhere. I can't believe there was a time when even a band like Nega got a lot of people talking every time something was released, and almost like 50% of it must've been nega ( ha ) tive.

I think pretty much every band had/has SOMEONE who doesn't like them, even if they're not that vocal about it. But as for saying like the majority supported a certain band, I also disagree with that because I'm sure there's some corner on the internet where VK fans gather/used to gather where the consensus might be totally different. I mean I remember hearing that Latin American fans are obsessed with Versailles, like on another level. Also seconding @Disposable on the fact that "the scene is different and we are older" because I think that plays a lot into it. But all of you saying you dislike 9goats, pls turn in your VK card, I'll be collecting them at the window over here from 9 pm tonight

O_O danm 

he looks so different WUTTTTT

https://twitter.com/haruya_style?s=09

I'm like 80% sure this is their other guitarist who used to go by RUA while in signal, so I guess thats everybody besides shion but that's been established hes gone forever lol

@Himeaimichu Yikes, I'm not surprised lmao.

I wish i had some of the screenshots I saw floating around of his 755 posts. a lot of them were fat phobic/Homophobic + admitting to being a lolicon. 
 

Wildshit man, I'm not sure I've heard anything about the members. but being acquainted with someone like Mamo theres got to be some similar characteristics otherwise why would you stick around someone that long. The scene doesn't pay that well. 

i dont know anything abt mamo and tbh dont care too much, and i also don't remember what i thought of their earlier works, but i ended up having only one of their songs in my playlist (波瀾万丈、椿唄). i should try them out again later. speaking of their latest releases, both full length and erogro, although there were really good moments i always felt like it's not enough. as if they played safe not to sound too edgy or something. maybe it's for that versatility you're speaking about idk.

i don't like r-shitei because they sound like you gave generic a voice and a $15 walmart gift card

Haha, five stars for your perfect description of the VK genre. There's great gems, and then there's questionable ones where you're wondering where the hell they even came from, lol.

Also like @Gesu said, I think it's nice to be able to express your opinions on MH and not get completely flamed or be treated like utter trash for it (Thinking of places like YouTube...)  

@monkeybanana4 I'm getting Vietnam flashbacks to a YT comment war on MEJIBRAY's Eiki PV that started when someone said she hated VK because it's "gay and the bois look like gurls". When people told her she was being ridiculous, she said and I quote "What if I said that I HATE visual kei?" and I think she got disappointed when everyone said they wouldn't really give a shit. Ahh, memories.

God, yes, I agree. So many both great and shitty bands coming and going. And I love the forum because you can just say x band sucks ass and you won't get 20+ butthurt fangirls demanding you get banned from the group lol

oh speaking of, did you order that justice king remake album they rihleased this year?

I'm still waiting for kiwamu to respond to my email but that was one of the releases I planned on picking up along with that airo solo project 

noice (that CD mostly sounds horrid but I wonder if last 3 remastered tracks sound better than original takes; I absolutely hate how starwave studio records their stuff now tbh)

I dunno if it's a legal thing. Seemed more like a style choice to me. I remember seeing/hearing a few songs where a word was beeped in the audio and ALSO censored in the written lyrics. Usually seemed to be a specific person's name (i.e. *beep*-chan) or some lewd body part. Can't remember the exact songs, my memory is bad. 

I was like 99 % sure they did it for sɔıʇǝɥʇsǝɐ until I've heard several lines in miyavi's coin locker baby (CD re-print after she went major) outright erased from the record and than I remembered japanese labels were paranoid about maintaining their image and basically signing to anything on/above starwave levels would result in The Beep.

Ozashiki Asobi to Iki na TABOO by Memento Mori has a censored word, but the lyrical context is about periods so I am pretty sure he was saying "vagina" or something like that lmao.

They also mosaic'ed Ai when he ate the paper scrolls during their last live lol

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@nekkichiif you would know me better you'd know that Everything about your Comment towards me is wrong, but well you just do what you always do...

Anyway just to tell they are nothing but a huge borefest to me.

what do i always do luv

Nega - the faded film of a Japanese sadness

I'd suggest you to check Grave of the Sacrifice and Vanitas by Nega, even if I like all their stuff... about TBS I'd say Ousia too and mostly all their singles, in particular Kagune and Shitsuai to izon, sono kanshoku (Ushinai is beautiful!)

P.S: Didn't know that Jin had a new band... I will tell my opinion about Articlear when I listened to them, too many releases to catch up with from other bands xD

@sleepy coffee Articlear is alright, its just a bunch of TBS unused  material 

adjusted you say 👀

wouldnt happen to have a link  or something on you. or maybe the audio presets/changes they used? 

but ya agreed, a band of their caliber, popularity, and success should have pretty good production/mixing/mastering. god knows what went wrong 

@chipathy "I was just going through my stuff and for this "remix" or whatever I did, all I did was decrease the track volume by 2db then select all frequencies above 4kHz and increase by 2db to bring out the high-end."

kisou is incredibly under-appreciated on here but we all know who inhabits the Deg thread so like

I'm hopeful, at least! I really wish I could go to the live tomorrow, not to mention God I want to buy that damn 喜怒哀楽. Live limited stuff makes me sad. Just give me the option to buy it on CDJapan when I'm less broke lol, I got to buy 離人 soooo long after the release, but at least I could buy it 😅

They just announced that the 3 members will do a oneman later this year, and they have new classy styles too! It's on their Twitter now

Yeah, I saw it on my phone when they posted it, I'm really glad. The picture really surprised me!

conditioners and hair masks will be of a great help〜 but dont use them on the roots - you want your hair to be moisturized but not greasy. also you dont want to brush your hair while it's still wet. blowdry with the grain(hope i used proper words for that, sorry if not). if you're going to use flat iron dont ever use it on wet hair too and it's better to use a spray.

Get your hair trimmed regularly. Every 3 months at least. Otherwise it'll get split ends and you'll have to chop up a longer portion of it than you'd want to

So since I'm pretty clueless I just randomly bought something called matrix biolage from the store (I have 0 clue what's good I just got whatever was the most expensive) and also picked up some micellar shampoo from a brand that has already escaped my memory. Anyways since my hair feels pretty thin and meh I've been using all the stuff daily and it all seems to be working pretty well already lol

wait katsuya worked with fucking girugamesh too???? 

Yeah, just the mixing and mastering for their last mini album because Ryo was his Senpai and I guess let him do it so he could get his foot in the door

King

is it the justice king re-release album released by starwave or did they upload their noname label releases over there?..

The rerelease

I posted a YouTube playlist to all the songs on it in a UFJ thread

Ya I probably have the semi unpopular opinion where I actually really like rshitei but I think in a new environment they all have more to show off, if that doesnt happen to be the case then well hopefully they comeback soon lol

Chipathy or just chip idr

I realised this as I was writing the question lol

It all comes down to one's personal taste... But you're right. 

Better then most of diru's stuff but definitely not as good as Uroboros.

i'm not even diru fan (and im not saying chedoara is not great, it is) but like they made a lot of different stuff and they are not popular for no reason, and i doubt that a beginner band's tiny little album beats their whole huge discography. anyway i suggest to chill and enjoy the music, any band with heavy sound will be compared to diru just because.

I second Zeus on Master of Romance.

Their compilation album "Undead 13+2" also has some of their biggest hits like Meisai and Silent Eve . "Gain" isn't half bad either and is different enough from their other stuff to stand on its own.

My personal favorites are their first single "Kokui no shita no...." because it has a bit of that early 2000's vkei sound, and also their mini-album "The Trend Killer", which is mostly included on that compilation album I mentioned, but has some exclusive tracks that I think are worth checking out.

Also, the song little prayer off their single "Crymore" is totally underrated. 

Ok I just finished listening to master of romance while driving home, this album is actually so fucking amazing holy hell

So glad you like it! That album is Sadie at their peak imo

Well, if you don't like "over the top cathy choruses"...you might have picked the wrong genre to listen to  plenty of those, here, in VK

maybe but theres something about dexcore were it just sounds like every metalcore band i listened to from when i was 11-18 and i just cant do it anymore 

I don't usually talk much about what I dislike anymore but I feel the same. I think it sounding more west style metal is why, like you said. That and major key or 'catchy chorus', I skip that in all songs unless it's very short. But I'm also someone who can almost only listen to minor key.

(Engrish I hate too if it's corny but I can tolerate it in certain circumstances.)

So it's like a triple threat of annoyances lol

and if anything, I'd say DIM was the end/beginning of their last/next era.

DIM is an awesome album. My favorite of their heavier stuff.

03/04 minis are the best. & the blessed Yuutsu/Zetsu/Miseinen

I would imagine most would agree with that!

Ya thats how I feel but for me it feels like it takes 5 mins to shave and then 5 mins for it already look like 5oclock shadow lol 

Maybe look into laser removal (NOT pulsed light), it could be the solution for your problem if you want many of them gone forever.

Look for someone who specifically waxes men and ask for their advice. You could get extremely sensitive skin after waxing and non stop pimples and ingrown hairs. Please!! Talk to a professional before doing anything. 

Wear a hat.

No seriously, wear something on your head. Depending on where you live, if the sun can penetrate the atmosphere well enough you have a chance at singeing the hairs off your scalp. Some bald guy here in CO got skin cancer from sun exposure.

The heat can kiss my ass

I hate this heat, fall needs to hurry up and get here.

Honestly, everything produced by 魔琴 (the guitarist who doesn't hate Kyoka and didn't quit) has vocalist that sound like they're all the same person. I can't really tell who is singing what, but I assume most of the screams / weird noises / croaking was strictly Kyoka.

Here's what I mean by stuff sounding similar: his solo project even sounds like it's Insanity Injection with a different mixing engineer

As far as I know, he only did clean vocals.

Makes me wonder who did those weird "harsh" vocals on that laveil mizeria song cover thing

World of mercy is amazing though

I liked the album at first, didn't love it, but after seeing it live I have to agree. It is very much a live album and has a lot of personality that doesn't come out in a non-live setting.

I think the production on the album doesn't do it any favors. Feels really flat, guitars lack any significant punch, etc. I think I'd like it overall a lot more if it were produced differently, so I'm not surprised to hear it translates better live.

That's even more than some of the biggest names in football, damn. It always suprises me just how much money there is in baseball.

The only league I follow closely, nowadays is NHL and the biggest contract is Connor McDavid's 15 mil/year for 8 years (not accounting for Ovechkin's deal, he's had 10 mil for 13 years, but that runs out next year, I think). Marner and Matthews have a million more in bonuses, but their contracts are shorter.

Ya baseball in general just seems insane how much money is involved 

lmao this is insane. I only follow volleyball and top of the crop players only get between $1-3 million a season, which is already high for the sport.

If you like amazingly cheesy kitschy campy stuff, then EROS, 情欲のアクメ or 嘘と女と『　　　』are highly recommended (releases most ppl probably won't mention, I remember their online popularity tanked with these, lol... but I have a soft spot for them ;))).

Quick discog summary:

Royal Order (early VK metal phase)

Uso To Onna To (erotic jazz rock phase)

Camera Obscura (darker electronic alt rock phase)

Three albums that are pretty good in their own right. The band's change in style over the years divides most people who listen them and you'll probably understand why if you listen to all three but I'll vouch for each one having some good offerings!

Beyond that the single mini albums surrounding the first album are the most classic lol

everything up to royal order if you're into srs bsns

Whichever version has more tracks, that's the one I tend to choose. I'd rather listen to the most a band has to offer than watch some potentially lame video I could see on YT anyway.

it depends on the content, really.

If thw DVD has a making of I go for that, or the extra track on the regular edition...

But I'm a collector, when I like a band enough to get their material I eventually get all versions if they have different content. 

usually the one with more tracks, or the one with more content in general. when i was younger i would choose the best cover most of the time, but i usually regretted that so i learned the hard and expensive way lol. if i really like something i will consider owning all versions down the road.