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so dimlim released misc on usa version. hmm...gotta say, i feel pity for all those people who are gonna die without listening to dimlim.
 
Ive heard a lots of different kind of music, from cannibal corpse to indian classical music, from neo folk to jpop but nothing soothes my soul as Sho's gender bending vocals.
 
All hail DIMLIM~

so dimlim released misc on usa version. hmm...gotta say, i feel pity for all those people who are gonna die without listening to dimlim.
 
Ive heard a lots of different kind of music, from cannibal corpse to indian classical music, from neo folk to jpop but nothing soothes my soul as Sho's gender bending vocals.
 
All hail DIMLIM~

#TEAMTREES is a mega funding campaign for planting 20 million trees before the year 2020.

For every one dollar donated, one tree will be planted.

This video started it all - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPJKxAhLw5I

A lot of big personalities are supporting it like discovery channel, Elon Musk, Alan Walker, etc and almost every youtuber. 

https://teamtrees.org/

what do you think about it?

#TEAMTREES is a mega funding campaign for planting 20 million trees before the year 2020.

For every one dollar donated, one tree will be planted.

This video started it all - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPJKxAhLw5I

A lot of big personalities are supporting it like discovery channel, Elon Musk, Alan Walker, etc and almost every youtuber. 

https://teamtrees.org/

what do you think about it?

Commenting a bit on what was discussed here. Just my two cents, aight. Or, uh, a lot of cents. Sorry I'm terrible at Explaining.

I don't know, I think the otaku/anime/manga fan crowd is actually quite keen on keeping up with Japan's youth, and Japan's youth has been listening a lot to K-pop too. I don't see a necessary overlap in fandom, but yes, there are people who like both. Although I think the cultural ties to these two as well as, say, AKB48 - idols, of course - sees reflexion in anime fandom as the plethora of idol anime/mobage products (started with Love Live and IM@S newer spinoffs, also UtaPri and now its Enstars, HypMic, Bandori, Dreaming!, Idolish7 ...), doesn't mean they enjoy the 3DPD idols of k-pop lol. Also, for international fans, k-pop is way more accessible than Japanese music nowadays. It's in every streaming platform, every twitter handle, every magazine, you don't even have to saerch. It's so easy to stumble into it so while back then people knew about K-pop because of Japanese music, now it's much more the other way around. I think most of the k-pop crowd - as part of it myself - is either like, 20%ish people on their 20s or maybe 30s who were formerly fans of Asian music in general (me!) and/or younger people who had incursions because of East Asian ancestry, and a majority of teens who are into k-pop because of YouTube and/or BTS or any overlap of these two. But yes, I definitely think that with k-pop being way more accessible - and presenting the same sort of "we are anime boys" fantasy that vk did a decade ago - it's not really surprising that some people who want to get a feel of East Asian culture are into it nowadays. Speaking of which, I grew up (in the 2000s) listening to a lot of Japanese music and watching anime and stuff, but even before BoA I've always been pretty immersed in SK culture as well because of MMOs so maybe this isn't even such a new trend. The media and pop cultures do overlap a lot at times. (*cough* do you know Tri-Angle *cough*)
 
I also realized a lot of people who were dragged into K-pop through East Asian music market in general had a few favorite songs/groups - or even one favorite in particular - but since Korean TV shows love to mix the groups they end up discovering other acts and becoming a fan as well - I know that is my case since I used to say I hate k-pop for a good 6 years from 2009 to 2015. Speaking of cultural interchanging I think the most extreme of k-pop fans - at least in my experience since I am always biting my own tail by saying I don't like rap and proceeding to be a fan of every group with 3+ rappers in the market but maybe that's because they actually do rap and not just digdigdoo their way through the annoyingly obligatory rap sequence  - actually end up listening to black music because that's what their idols are listening to, which I found so funny.
 
Lastly, I have to disagree that k-pop sounds like Western music. I think the Apop market specifically has been pretty weak since, uh, probably the decline of Lady Gaga and the crash of Disney stars and you don't see such bubblegummy pop songs so much anymore even among artists who excelled at it before (like, say, Katy Perry or Jessie J) ; people who still do it, like, say, Carly Rae Jepsen are pretty much adored, but it's somehow not the trend anymore I think? So back then I thought that Apop was in many ways superior to kpop, but I don't think so anymore, not to my tastes at least - sometimes I'm listening to the radio and I'm happy when BTS comes up because this is the bubblegummy happy song I want. And you know what I mean when I say all k-pop sounded like uh fantastic baby naega jail jam nagagagagaga. (Also, I was talking to an online friend who happened to go through the same ~stages of Asian music~ as myself and we did notice a trend of, sometimes girl groups doing better and sometimes boy groups doing better. I think it was definitely like, -06 for bgs, 07-10 for ggs, 11-14 for bgs, 15-17 for ggs and now we're having a bg era again, or something to that effect, and she agreed with me.)
 
But yeah, it's no metal nowadays either.
 
Also, to whoever asked about other genres of music in the Korean market, Korean music isn't just k-pop (surprisingly, not really, as the same applies to music in pretty much uh every country) and personally I listen to a lost of other artists, from Alice Vicious to Norazo to Guckkasten to Epik High. They're just, well, not k-pop which is a very specific market with very specific rules. Another important thing to note is that most times these idols are basically trained - not for cheap - by the companies behind them, and they don't always follow their careers so closely and teens are left on their own to produce stuff. Not saying this happens to the biggest of them, but smaller companies? Definitely. And sometimes they end up spewing dumb racist/homophobic bullshit thinking it's cool, but it's not happening so much nowadays.
 
I also think this shift from people from, say, Japanese music to k-pop has something to do with the decline of Being an emo kid is cool culture because, lol, music that actually hits your soul and makes you think about life? Pfft, let's go for the bubblegummy songs that promote sex exploitation, it's much better this way. I think it is just this global culture shift.  
 
So to me saying yes, VK and K-pop are similar because they're both music for fans of music, and it happens to be East Asian music! is the same as saying yeah, if you like Jay Z you'll probably like Billie Eilish because they're both American and seeking fans!, which is kind of... no. In many ways it's not similar. I think the shift is because of cultural changes and accessibility much more than because humans all of a sudden can't distinguish intricate music from pop music anymore.
 
But yes, of course the "we look like anime boys with our perfect makeup and cool blue hair, please love us" aesthetic of k-pop is a thing that drags young people into it into k-pop, but I guess the same could be said for, like, hip youtubers. You can't really avoid the aesthetic of things, I guess. Says the grown up woman who has a picture of candy floss-haired k-pop boy on her profile picture. But take me as you will really. Funnily, I can say I am much more appreciative of vk for the aesthetics it presents - not just "oh, ok, it's hot boys and I can ship them!" but I mean the actual aesthetic in the sense of the culture/semiology it expresses - than I am of k-pop for these reasons. I swear I do not care for 17 year old girls being kawaii ( but man, I love some of the songs they have! Very Very Very is Astounding! Lipstick is Excellent! Likey is Quintessential! Russian Roulette is Classic! Bboom Bboom is Amazing! ) nor am I particularly interested in 20 year old boys flexing their excessively worked out abs - I honestly think of how bad their health must be before I can even try to appreciate the abs - but still I love some of the music they have. (FYI, my favorites don't fall into either, for the most part. I'm always with the kawaii boys crowd or the WAHRGAH ANGRY boys crowd lol.) 
 
I recently had my first few experiences actually being to k-pop concerts and ... suffice to say I had such a blast I'm actually considering to do research on it now. I'm a psychologist and happen to study cultural industries and workers health, and was precisely seeking a topic for my masters and I'm really considering dropping everything I had planned to do in order to delve into this phenomenon which I find to be the prime example of pop Asian music market being a lot more about visuals and the boyfriend experience than music lol. ("Are you trying to find an excuse to go to concerts more often?" Precisely.)

Tl;dr: woman tried to enjoy k-pop but failed miserably in  her teens, now is a graduated and practicing psychologist, sees all the problems with the industry but still can't help but be supportive of her fav k-pop boys, still unsure if it does more good or harm to them.
 
As a footnote ... I did this thing a while back but never posted so here it is. It's just for fun but it really makes you think of what has become of the remnants of the VK scene and how cultures just overlap.
 
 

The above post pretty much nails it.
 
K-pop is quite similar to VK and comparing them is a nice way to find out why k-pop became a world wide craze among females specially while VK did not.
 
K-pop uses the same formula as VK and jpop uses which is getting pretty boys and girls to do singing and in case of k-pop, dancing.
 
Somefuckinghow (i don't know how they do it) females are able to ship the group members to romantic scenarios in their mind and get pleasure? Ya.
 
Shipping members might be easier in k-pop as a typical k-pop group has more members than in any typical VK band and kpop groups are selected on the basis of their looks, they look more girly even without makeup than Japs might ever. Not to mention the k-pop revolves around the themes like love, friendship, teenage, school life etc and VK which is gothy and edgy.
 
-kpop is mostly pop music while VK is mostly Rock. And pop music have always been more popular than Rock hence the name.
 
- VK has (or had?) the goth vibe around due to the extravagant outfits, morbid lyrics and makeup and everybody knows how unpopular the goth stuff is even among Rock fans.
 
All in all, if k-pop is the popular cool chick of the school, VK is the outcast goth girl. Oh and jpop is the ex popular chick of the school who used to rule over the heart of every boy but lost her popularity as soon as the k-pop chick transferred.
 
Well that's my take on this topic. 

the whole thing slays tbh, they're definitely polishing their sound.

They have released a single and an EP on Spotify USA version.
 
Album cover looks ugly tho.
 
Listen to beyond the happiness. He does some real cool stuff with his voice like he is choking on something that I've haven't heard anybody else do ever LOL. 
 
These Japanese vocalists man... They seems to be on war with eachother like who can make the most weird kind of noises smh.

The above post pretty much nails it.
 
K-pop is quite similar to VK and comparing them is a nice way to find out why k-pop became a world wide craze among females specially while VK did not.
 
K-pop uses the same formula as VK and jpop uses which is getting pretty boys and girls to do singing and in case of k-pop, dancing.
 
Somefuckinghow (i don't know how they do it) females are able to ship the group members to romantic scenarios in their mind and get pleasure? Ya.
 
Shipping members might be easier in k-pop as a typical k-pop group has more members than in any typical VK band and kpop groups are selected on the basis of their looks, they look more girly even without makeup than Japs might ever. Not to mention the k-pop revolves around the themes like love, friendship, teenage, school life etc and VK which is gothy and edgy.
 
-kpop is mostly pop music while VK is mostly Rock. And pop music have always been more popular than Rock hence the name.
 
- VK has (or had?) the goth vibe around due to the extravagant outfits, morbid lyrics and makeup and everybody knows how unpopular the goth stuff is even among Rock fans.
 
All in all, if k-pop is the popular cool chick of the school, VK is the outcast goth girl. Oh and jpop is the ex popular chick of the school who used to rule over the heart of every boy but lost her popularity as soon as the k-pop chick transferred.
 
Well that's my take on this topic. 

They win, period.

VK in a nutshell.

Sick. (Screaming Inside Can Kill.)

When I understand "sick." is an abbreviation which stands for "Screaming Inside Can Kill.", then I always keep thinking it's cool.(Laugh)

This one from Pokemon episode 45 

Was playing apb reloaded. its a online multiplayer shooter game, and on world chat someone was trashing talking and guess what was that player's name? Kisaki.
 
Not even kidding. wish had taken a screenshot :l
 

Was playing apb reloaded. its a online multiplayer shooter game, and on world chat someone was trashing talking and guess what was that player's name? Kisaki.
 
Not even kidding. wish had taken a screenshot :l
 

Was playing apb reloaded. its a online multiplayer shooter game, and on world chat someone was trashing talking and guess what was that player's name? Kisaki.
 
Not even kidding. wish had taken a screenshot :l
 

Getting in on this hype so I can actually remember what came out this year and be persuaded to listen to more shit in the process yas. For now it's only the name of the release with a short description. New categories, scores and dates being added in the future.
 
 

Ugh you guys taste fucking sucks. How dare you rate TMOAB so low...tsk tsk. 

Ugh you guys taste fucking sucks. How dare you rate TMOAB so low...tsk tsk. 

I still don't get the trend of calling everything sub-par DEG does,  a Sukekiyo outtake.
 
Two Very different bands. 
 
And its already been made known that this is two tracks Shinya and Kaoru brought to the table and Kyo made the suggestion of putting em together.
 
If anything Mercy is pretty much a TIW leftover.
 

Um... Can you guys can try writing some goodass reviews on popular music sites like rateyourmusic? People there really dig reviews and ratings. My English sucks but I'll try too anyway. Better than nothing.
 
I also requested some music youtubers to feature this band and made some threads on other forums in which im active at featuring this band. 
 
They need advertisement. I don't see any reason why any metal fan won't like them. 

I'm hoping Jared Dines reacts to them in one of his videos, even just for like a minute like he did with DEVILOOF. I think that would help their popularity a lot since Jared has so many subscribers.

Um... Can you guys can try writing some goodass reviews on popular music sites like rateyourmusic? People there really dig reviews and ratings. My English sucks but I'll try too anyway. Better than nothing.
 
I also requested some music youtubers to feature this band and made some threads on other forums in which im active at featuring this band. 
 
They need advertisement. I don't see any reason why any metal fan won't like them. 

Cheodara by Dimlim lol.
 
Thought it was just going to be another album by a run-of-the-mill vk band trying to be heavy.
 
Boy was i wrong. This album filled the gap that TIW made.

Your right. On second thought saying he is on par with kyo or sho sounds like exaggeration. But i gotta admit his clean singing and their music definitely reminded me of kyo and dir en grey's ballad songs which rarely happens as far as japanese musicians are confirmed. i dont understand tuning so idk about that but if tuning can make you sound this good then i dont mind it either.