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Ever listen to a song and think to yourself that you've heard that melody somewhere before, but you can never place it? Alternatively, have you ever gotten into or read an argument with someone who says "x band copied y melody from z band"? I'm sure all of us have been there at one point and this is a topic that personally interests me. I like knowing where my artists source their inspiration from, and where their inspirations got their inspiration from, etc., because I believe that no idea is original but the interpretation can be. The subjectivity in how different artists hear and play back certain melodies is what makes music beautiful! ...and then there are times when bands just steal melodies and put no effort into it. Today we take a look at six songs that can go either way. I provide examples, where I think their origins stem from, and my final judgement. Sometimes it's hero worship. Sometimes it's laziness. Sometimes I just don't know. A lot of this was sourced from the "Inspirations..." thread I started a few years ago, but I also did a bit of legwork the last few months to cobble together my own examples. If you see a track here you pointed out somewhere before, odds are you helped me make this list! Remember, these are only my opinions and based off what I can hear between two songs. I am not classically trained in music theory and I'm going purely by ear. You won't see me drop music theory knowledge anywhere in this post. "Diabolic edict" by Ha;qch stems from "Black Valor" by The Black Dahlia Murder "When The Last Grave Has Emptied" by The Black Dahlia Murder "Elder Misanthropy" by The Black Dahlia Murder Homage or Copy: Frankenstein lives! "セラフ。" by KILLANETH stems from "DECADANCE - Counting Goats ... if I can't be yours -" by MEJIBRAY "go ahead" by girugämesh Homage or Copy: c-c-c-COPY...but every band has to start somewhere "The Summer Funeral" by SIGH stems from "Opening Theme ~ Bombing Mission" by Nobuo Uematsu Homage or Copy: Definitely a nod towards the veteran composer himself. "道化ノ華" by アルルカン (ARLEQUIN) stems from "zombie" by Versailles Homage or Copy: Smells like a copy to me but can go either way "Black Butterfly" by A stems from "Enter the Sandman" by Metallica Homage or Copy: Sounds like a copy to me. "Amentia" by E'm～grief～ stems from "Progenies of the Great Apocalypse" by Dimmu Borgir "The Promise of Fever" by Cradle of Filth "Shat Out of Hell" by Cradle of Filth "Honey and Sulphur" by Cradle of Filth Homage or Copy: A shameless mix of three black metal riffs

Indie/electronic outfit MARQUEE BEACH CLUB will release their debut album on August 10th, 2016! http://marqueebeachclub.tumblr.com/ https://twitter.com/mbc_japan MARQUEE BEACH CLUB "Flavor" Release Date: 2016.08.10 Price: ¥ 2,300 + Tax Label: P-VINE Cat.No.:PCD-93991 Tracklist: 01. eye 02. pattern 03. cups 04. wonder 05. understand 06. escape 07. city 08. utopia 09. white 10. dive 11. always

tbh I don't think Kisaki cared about the Dimmu stuff at all because he later stole the intro to an Anorexia Nervosa song to start off one of Lin's DVDs.

First of all, thanks to @indigofor suggesting that we could revamp this thread just to see how old MH attendees have progressed with their tastes and simultaneously gather some new bunch to present their all-time choices inside this Japanese music spectrum. As the title says already, you will have a chance to use this topsters link (since original topsters links are dead) to create a chart representing your tier 1, 2, 3...choices, depending on how much you are able to compile in terms of your Japanese favorites. And for the sake of fairness and challenge (huh?), it would be preferable to post 1 ALBUM PER ARTIST - and of course, make sure to post your jpg/png here for us to see (hopefully this thread won't die soon) mine (very difficult one - also, fuck my 2012 self): (try to zoom or if you don't succeed, press ctrl and "+" together) They are somewhat in order but I placed my picks from tier 1 choices (constant, essential) to tier 4 choices (might change, but still very memorable and enjoyable) and spoilered titles (in order) below:

on the 28th it was Rides In ReVellion's first one man live, which also conicides with their 1 year anniversary. due to my job, I get to see many great concerts, many of which are Rides In ReVellion due to the strong relationship between Rides In ReVellion and V STAR PROMOTION. but the live on the 28th was spectacular, the members put so much effort in preparation leading up to the live, and then twice as much during the actual live. and at the end of the night they announced that they will be playing in America in October! I can not express just how proud I am of this band. Picture taken by me.

New look: PV spot:

My phone was being super cranky with me when I took these... >.> All of the newer stuff I bought off of a friend who's getting out of the VK fandom. La'Mule - 結界~ガラス神経ト自我境界~ (Red Version) ViViD - Real (Type A) D=Out - High Collar (Type A) D=Out - あいするひと (Type A) ViViD - Fake (Type A) ViViD - Message (Type A) SuG - 不完全 Beautyfool Days DaizyStripper - 妄想日記 (Type A) D=Out - 中距離恋愛 (Regular Type A) SuG - Crazy Bunny Coaster (Type A) D=Out - 恋アバき、雨ザラし (Type A) The Kiddie - Calling (Limited Version) SuG - teenAge dream / Luv it!! (Limited Version) REALies - LiNE (Type A) D=Out - 感電18号 (Type A) DaizyStripper - Stargazer (Type A) SuG - ☆ギミギミ☆ (Type A) hide - Psyence Sleep My Dear - Ask for Eyes Sleep My Dear - Code L'arc en Ciel - Dune Malice Mizer - Memoire DX hide - Hide Your Face Glay - Speed Pop Stella Maria - ~cage~ Psycho Le Cemu - 浪漫飛行 (Limited Version) La'Mule - 一日の孤独 百年の孤独 La'Mule - 弐月伍日ノ泪 RoNo☆Cro - パイナップルチャーハン (Type A) Hero - 答え合わせ (Type A) SuG - Toy Soldier (Type A)

2016/27/07 R.I.P AvelCain </3 3 attempts till this neck thing worked..kinda

KILLANETH new maxi single "Apocrypha" will be released at 2016/09/07 (2 TYPE) limited edition (1,944yen) will include CD+DVD (including "Apocrypha" PV), and regular edition (1,620yen) will include CD only [CD track list] 01.Apocrypha 02.孤独-Einsamkeit- 03.Morpheus. (included in regular edition) btw they will hold ルシ(rushi) birthday live "自由のしるし" at Ikebukuro BLACK HOLE at 2016/12/04, DAY OF 39 "III X-V IX" at Ikebukuro CYBER at 2017/03/09, their presents live "Curse of OBELISK" at OSAKA RUIDO at 2017/04/12, their presents live "King of LARU" at NAGOYA HOLIDAY NEXT at 2017/04/13 and 丐(kai) birthday one-man live "Wrath of ANUBIS" at Shinjuku BLAZE at 2017/05/12 title of their live-distributed single to be released at their one-man live "黒聖書とウィジャの呼応" at Ikebukuro EDGE at 2016/07/29 is finalized as "キリク摘む空、衒う雨。(kirikou tsumu sora terau ame)"

Earlier today, Kenshi Yonezu released a trailer for his new single "LOSER/ナンバーナイン(number nine)" which is gonna be released on September 28th 5th single details 「LOSER / ナンバーナイン」 Release: 2016/09/28 *LOSER side (Limited Edition): CD + dog tag + loose package* \1,950 (+tax) *number nine side (Limited Edition): CD + DVD + 7inch gallery package* \1,800 (+tax) *Regular edition: CD\1,200 (+tax) <CD CONTENTS> M-1. LOSER M-2. ナンバーナイン (number nine) < "Louvre No.9~Manga, The 9th Art~" Official image song> M-3. amen <NUMBER NINE EDITION DVD CONTENTS> 1. LOSER / Music Video 2. ナンバーナイン (number nine) / Music Video *Those were written in english but i have no idea what they mean... there's a goods set for No.9 on his page though http://reissuerecords.net/goods/ Official announcement WHERE'S @beniEEEEEEEEEEEE

Hate to be that guy, but someone needed to mention Nocturnal Bloodlust. I'm pretty sure they also copied a Suicide Silence song in 'Pleasure of Torture', can't remember which...

one more club to add to the club of clubs... pelican fanclub awesome city club and summer club helsinki lambda club litchi hikari club marquee beach club

Yes they sound like Mejibray, but damn I dig it

I like them, I don't know why...probably because of the vocal.

Setlist of the show on 2016.07.29 Anna Tsuchiya - Knock Down HeavensDust - The world goes gray re:burn The Badasses - Katarsis DIR EN GREY - Utafumi DIR EN GREY - Kuukoku no kyouon LM.C - Punky heart Kra - Fushigi na sekai kara no shoutaijou Matenrou Opera - Silent Scream Jupiter - ARCADIA Kuroyume - Heavenly Tezya - The World Ethereal Sin - Heretic warcray Galmet - Walk ones way Nocturnal Bloodlust - Punch me if you can Nocturnal Bloodlust - Dead End Nocturnal Bloodlust - The strength I need Nocturnal Bloodlust - Strike in Fact Merry - Gunjou Avanchick - Jinsei game Dazed Garden - Ashita Diaura - Horizon Shiva - Kamikaze Avel Cain - Yomi ga eri Gossip - R-18 CrowXClass - Rinne tensei Thank you for listening. I take wishes for music here too ^^ just comment

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No Dir en grey - Grieva or Gazette - Gossip comparsions ? Maybe that wouldve been too obvious/too much. Ha;qch's Edict totally agree, the problem is i like it way more than the original. But didnt know it copied more than just Elder Mysantropy, didnt know the TBDM other songs. On a sidenote, it would be interesting to list all J-Rock Songs with the typical/most common structure in 70% of all todays vk songs chorus with the guitar playing like this or a small alteration or which song/band started with that: e------------------------------------------------------- b------------------------------------------------------- g------------------------------------------------------- d---0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-8-8-8-8-7-7-7-7- a---0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-8-8-8-8-7-7-7-7- D---0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-8-8-8-8-7-7-7-7-- (anyone knows what i mean with the guitar tab here?) Heavy parts in the low chord region going up to typically 8 followed by 7 power chord. Its so common it already feels necessary to me and if its missing some songs feel uncomplete (latest e.g. ARCHEMIs 崇拝 has the typically 0-1-3 stuff going on but misses the 8-7, which makes me feel something is missing listening to the song). VK is so predictable since few (a lot?) of years, listening to a new song the first time i feel like i can already tell the next riff before its even coming. Just a handful of bands makes an exception to that.

Let's not forget the chain of "Because":

Mas meu nick termina com "a" :v

"Weight of sins" is now available for online purchase through http://www.stargoodsshop.com/product/702

Today is FoLLoW's 3rd one-man live! This will be distributed to all attendees ^^

sry for double post but THE hot piece of ass QUEEN IS SLAYING TOO

I still can't decide if this band is awesome or awful

Don't disagree with the ARLEQUIN one, but I do think that “zombie song” is just a visual kei trope at this point (a la “that one jazz song”), so they could be ripping off any number of people Off the top of my head, LIN's "Walking in the rain" (though that one came after Zombie), etc. (I think the trend probably started from Marilyn Manson's "Beautiful People," right?) Re: E'm, I had no idea that the rest of the song after the intro was stolen as well! Thanks for this thread hahaha

V STAR PROMOTION is proud to present the overseas debut of Rides In ReVellion! They will be appearing at Anime USA in Washington, DC at the Washington Marriot Wardman Park Hotel on October 21-23, 2016. There will be a live concert, autograph signing, and other events included with the price of convention admission. For more information, stay tuned or visit http://animeusa.org We look forward to meeting many of you while we are there, and hope that this is the first of many opportunities for us to bring visual kei artists to the international stage. Thank you for your support.

I couldn't do a top 50, had to do the 100 and still cut out a lot I would have liked to keep. lol. They're only loosely in order of release date (starting with the oldest).

Oh yeah, the Unraveling and Rinkaku remixes were actually so good i forgot to count them as remixes lmao, all those other ones are generally pretty weak though...

HOLY FUCK happy birthday Hiyuu idk where u are or if u exist anymore but have a great day and i love u

don't forget DALLJUB STEP CLUB! Also Japanese!

I was thinking the same thing, haha. Möscow Çlub is another Japanese one. There's also a handful of Western indie artists I can think of off the top of my head too (Bombay Bicycle Club, Two Door Cinema Club, The ABC Club, etc.)

sibilebashir parodying Pokemon GO. You're welcome.

you almost had me, but as soon as i refreshed my memory, and they are different. It can be posted in the "Inspiration" - where does music find it? if you wanted to get them the song pierrot used&upgraded would have been a tiny bit of a better choice because the songs dont travel far apart and keep that beat

It's a few things. The feedback break after the intro is longer, the first verse is longer, and the section after the first chorus is longer. As a whole, this single is disappointing. I was hoping Kuukoku wasn't going to be just Sugizo playing over the album track, but oh well. Also, Revelation remix is absolute garbage. Go back to reimagining older tracks please, because I didn't miss the era of singles coming with DEG dookie remixes.

You won't get the hang of the series without watching at least about 5 or 6 episodes. It's really misleading at the start because it needs to get into its flow, and it gets more intense and dark the further it goes. (If it's then still not your thing, I guess ReZero just isn't for you) But hell, it was the surprise of last season for me. I agree with what @Original Sakusaid up there^. It's such a fresh wind in-between most of the series with a similar theme. I absolutely love how "real" Subaru is. How he gets his ups and downs. How he has to face the backlash of things he started without thinking things through. How he realizes he's fucked, basically. Yes, there are definitely generic parts here and there but the main idea of the show, and Subaru's character development (greatly thanks to Kobayashi for voicing him so perfectly), are what keep me interested. If the novel readers' comments are any indication, it'll just continue to get better and better.

Buck Tick is amazing. I love catchy tunes.

If I thought my current car could handle another road trip, but I think 4 cross-country trips tapped it out XD

Ordering it as we speak xD thanks for the heads up @hiroki

Bummer :< I was really hoping that they'd have an actual non-live-limited release after joining AsTiLLe.

Send help

only one pic but tzk is SLAYING

Oh fuck me. AirHorn.wav is the new Visual Kei.

Get further in before you call it generic, because The second and third arcs are where it's at in that show. It has really impressed me on a lot of fronts, characters have been so wonderful and I can't think of the last time I've been so enamored with certain characters that I really care about whats gonna happen to them next. Also that brings me to my sheer awe of the voice work in this show, it's god tier, especially the main protags. They have done an excellent job getting across the sheer terror the protag goes through with just the voice work and the face animation, I've been really impressed so far. animation has been pretty well done as well so far. Music has also been really great and reflects the seriousness f some scenes very well, plus I'm addicted to a lot of the catchy animu themes that this show has going on. but I digress there are some generic things like certain characters and plot lines, but the rest makes up for those I believe. I'd say the show's biggest weakness might be the goofy scenes that the protag forces onto himself but I can forgive it because it actually has plot significance considering that's his way of coping with what's happening to him. Best part of the show in my opinion is how real the protag feels and his reactions and feelings that he is having seem more realistic to me than most anime protagonists. He has an ego, and pride , and sadness, and fear, and lust, and greed. They do a really good job of representing these very human feelings in a lot of the scenes to the point where sometimes I can see myself reacting in the same manner if I was in his shoes. Not many anime have characters that can do that I think. A very interesting show for sure, I hope you can make your way through it and maybe discuss what your take on all these things are.

I started working on cosplay pieces about a week ago. Hmmm.

^^ I myself have hairy man legs, so that's a no can do for me lol Purchased what I believe to be the last New 3DS XL in red from my local Target, for my niece, along with Majora's Mask. Uncle Yuyo is now broke as fuck.

Almost there.... Waiting on one final piece to the puzzle.

Today I got me two anime figurines. Fist of the North Star's Shuu (I am not writing that out as Shew) Jojo's Bizarre Adventure - Higashikata Josuke I included a picture of both figures out of the box so there would be a non-glaring box picture. I'll probably re-post them later. I really like that my Josuke figure has similar portions to my FotNS figures, so when I get more figures of both series, I can have "crack pairing" battles on my book shelves.

+1 link with various terms (not cd-related, but) http://macchalatte.blogspot.ru/2013/03/visual-dictionary.html

There was a "visual kei dictionary" site, although it seems to be dead now. Luckily you can still access an archived older version of it which still has plenty of content over at https://web.archive.org/web/20090224181743/http://visujisho.chikasen.net/ Not completely related, but they also have a nice guide for going to VK lives in japan https://web.archive.org/web/20080613183900/http://www.rushedblue.com/live101.html